A JW version of God's New System?
No thanks, I can just bang my head against a brick wall today for free
i was a witness for over forty years and for most of that time the "new world" "paradise" was not a place i ever wanted to live in.. there are many aspects of life in the 21st century that are great and i wouldn't want to give up.
tv, internet, blues/jazz clubs etc etc.. i may be shallow.
but there were other better reasons millions of people would have gone, wiped out by god: this never sat easy with me.. i told my elder father that i wouldn't want to live five minutes in god's new system, knowing that people i loved, had been killed by god because they didn't love him in the way he wanted.. just telling my father that has made me really wake up to how i really feel about my ex religion.. does a paradise earth as jw's depict appeal to you?
A JW version of God's New System?
No thanks, I can just bang my head against a brick wall today for free
i have the feb magazine with the new report in it.
if anyone is interested to know any of the figures then let me know and i will post it over the next half hour or so....
I'll wait for a scan or the real deal...
upon a fine conversation with a good forum member last night i started to think about the meaning of the word spiritual.
many people, including some agnostics and atheists, use this word with some regularity.
"i'm not religious, but i am spiritual" is something even i have said.
Bradley,
I would agree that practitioners of Zen would consider themselves monists:
Philosophy 1. The view in metaphysics that reality is a unified whole and that all existing things can be ascribed to or described by a single concept or system.
2. The doctrine that mind and matter are formed from, or reducible to, the same ultimate substance or principle of being
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do any of you have the matrix wish i could just forget all this attitude sometimes?
me and the wife were fightitng again and she asked why i can't just go back and pretend or just forget all this... she said as an athnostic you either don't belive in god or don't believe that god cares so why can't you just go and fake it... i was dumbfounded i ask her why can't you just get the f*ck out and stop faking it... she stormed out and i sat down here..... so i ask ya, if you could forget all the negatives about the wbts (i know thats a lot) and just go back like nothing had ever happened would you?
I would NEVER go back, it's not an option. Not a thought on the radar, not even a blip.
To thyself thou must be true.
I sat myself down, once, and seriously thought about it. Then got up a wiser man...
LT
...and that's exactly why.
Find your True Self. Rid yourself of the WTS phobias and see what the workd has to offer.
BTW, I like the idea of walking into a church to rid yourself of those particular WTS phobias.
we talk it to death.
every subject.
is it really of any benefit to you to let it out here?
I come here to build myself the tallest, most beautiful sand castle that I can.
I do that, not by tearing down other people's sand castles, but by trying to focus on my own individual efforts in Life.
Finding my "True Authentic Self" is a rewarding experience for me. Coming here once in a while helps me with that discovery process.
Things that I discover here allow me to then apply these discoveries into my day-to-day life. With no application though, coming here would seem like a fruitless effort for me.
upon a fine conversation with a good forum member last night i started to think about the meaning of the word spiritual.
many people, including some agnostics and atheists, use this word with some regularity.
"i'm not religious, but i am spiritual" is something even i have said.
At first glance, I wanted to disagree with you.
...but the more I thought about it, I suppose I can agree.
I was thinking more in terms of Eastern philosophy [I've been taking some classes with a Zen group], and although Buddha is given mention, he's mentioned only as a person [with the group I'm with for now anyway]. The spiritual aspect comes into play when one considers that all human beings are interconnected with each other. Which corresponds to my Aikido training, by hurting another human, you are hurting yourself. We are all part of "the Universe". Even an introspective sitting, zazen, is a chance to disconnect from the physical world and ideas and live in the now free of self, but connected to "Self".
So in the above thought, there is some sort of "spirit" that comes into play. I consider myself a "spiritual" person, but I do not necessarily believe in a soul or spirit passing on. But the above still qualifies as "spiritual" per your definition Bradley, right?
hi all, forgive me and my n00bness if this has been discussed, or if i started this thread in the wrong place.
how does everyone feel about death,and what happens to you afterward?
do you still believe what the wts teaches?
Philosophicaly, I'm free of the WTS phobias of "Arm-a-getting".
My view now is more Zen'ish. There can be no life without death. No begining without an end. No day without night.
So I don't fear death, just make the most of everyday that I have here and now.
Actually makes me appreciate this life alot more since I don't have my "WatchTower issued" raincheck for my life in the "pair-of-dice -earth" to make up for the life I was pissing away as a rub-a-dub Dub.
i grew up jw and was your average blonde, blue eyed florida girl.
i of course being a normal girl had raging hormones and was always looking around at boys.
i was a pioneer though and homeschooled, so i only met jws and was always of the mindset that i had to marry a jw.
By us I'd say it was a pretty target rich enviroment for the guys, especially as the years went by.
Felt sorry for the sisters because there wasn't much for them to chose from.
Probably explains why so many single sisters took up work where the "need was greater"
its funny that when i imagine what other posters look like - i alway imagine them as attractive, fit, well groomed, with bright, shiny happy faces.
i never see them as obese, nerdy, or with greasy hair and warts and pimples.
their noses are never too big - no body has a "comb-over.
When I met everyone in Dallas, it was as expected for the most part.
although, shotgun didn't have a handlebar mustache ...
this is what the garbage men left behind today.
the dude comes in a truck and presses a button to lift the bin and empty into the truck.
everytime he does all this crap is left over from spilling out of the bin.. apparently, the city worker doesn't even have to get out of his cushy seat to put excess into the garbage truck.
Hmmm, last week our garbage man left a home-printed Christmas Card on each of our recycling bins in our neighborhood wishing us a Happy Holiday!
Paul, of the "I really like my neighborhood" class